19:17 -!- Irssi: Starting query in EFNet with Recursive
19:17 <Recursive> Fine, thank you.
19:18 <Recursive> I must say to you that all fiscal liberals are douchebags.
19:18 <Nikky> That’s nice.
19:19 <Recursive> Thank you, that is all.
19:19 <Nikky> How does it feel not to care?
19:19 <Nikky> I mean, does it make you happy to see homeless mothers?
19:20 <Nikky> And with the dollar you saved from paying for housing and job programs you bought a hamburger instead?
19:20 <Nikky> Is there some joy in that?
19:22 <Recursive> No.
19:22 <Recursive> A homeless mother is a sad thing.
19:22 <Recursive> Too bad.
19:22 <Recursive> So sad.
19:22 <Nikky> Wow.
19:23 <Recursive> In the wilderness, inferior animals die. The other animals don’t care.
19:23 <Nikky> Maybe if you get out of your protected suburb sometime and actually see how it is.
19:24 <Recursive> Unnecessary.
19:24 <Recursive> Heartlessness is a virtue.
19:27 <Recursive> Hmm, perhaps I come off wrong.
19:27 <Recursive> It is not bad that people care for other people.
19:27 <Recursive> The efforts of charity can accomplish great things.
19:27 <Recursive> However, I prefer to be a selfish asshole.
19:28 <Recursive> I should not have to pay for other, less fortunate people, if I do not choose to.
19:28 <Recursive> Why don’t you try supporting some charity, instead of pushing for a bigger government?
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— Log opened Tue Sep 09 19:48:06 2008
19:48 <Nikky> Because the role of government is to support its individuals
19:48 <Nikky> and to ensure the well being of its markets
19:48 <Nikky> a homeless man, a drug addict, or single mother aren’t really helping out in the economy
19:48 <Nikky> so the government’s *role* is to help them become productive
19:48 <Nikky> And furthermore, you use “big government”
19:49 <Recursive> The role of government is to organize its individuals.
19:49 <Nikky> Isn’t it interesting that some of the highest taxed on the planet, are also the happiest?
19:49 <Nikky> Gee, that is weird.
19:49 <Recursive> It doesn’t have any obligation to help its citizens.
19:49 <Recursive> Well, perhaps not.
19:49 <Nikky> Well, why have an army then.
19:49 <Nikky> Or President
19:50 <Nikky> or anything
19:50 <Recursive> Yes.
19:50 <Nikky> governments were CREATED for the collective well being
19:50 <Recursive> We do need a militia to protect the people.
19:50 <Nikky> and PART OF THAT IS HELPING OTHERS
19:50 <Nikky> Don’t go spouting off random Republican talking points.
19:50 <Nikky> Because you don’t have a clue what really goes on in the world, or the basis of government.
19:51 <Recursive> But the government is not responsible for providing services like welfare or Medicare.
19:51 <Nikky> You’re just angry because you’re paying a modicum of money every month in taxes.
19:51 <Nikky> And a few cents of that is helping those less well off
19:51 <Nikky> And if those less well off were converted into wage earners
19:51 <Nikky> Well, guess what, you get to pay even less in taxes.
19:51 <Nikky> But no, that’s too easy.
19:51 <Recursive> Those less off are less off for a reason.
19:51 <Nikky> That’s too economical
19:51 <Recursive> We provide children with an education.
19:52 <Nikky> You’d rather not pay anything.
19:52 <Nikky> Yeah, inner-city education is really helpful.
19:52 <Nikky> They’re really given a fair chance.
19:52 <Recursive> We provide them with services so that they can learn what they need to survive in the adult world.
19:52 <Nikky> What services?
19:52 <Nikky> Name one.
19:52 <Recursive> That is enough, they need no more.
19:52 <Recursive> Free or reduced lunch.
19:52 <Recursive> Fostor care programs.
19:52 <Nikky> So you learn how to survive
19:52 <Nikky> with free lunch
19:52 <Nikky> wow, really
19:52 <Recursive> Yes.
19:53 <Nikky> Well, golly gee wiz.
19:53 <Nikky> “Here’s your free lunch son. Sorry about your life”
19:53 <Nikky> “You want to go to college? Tough shit. Survive yourself”
19:53 <Recursive> Children cannot learn if they are starving.
19:53 <Recursive> So we provide them with a free lunch.
19:53 <Nikky> I want to back up a moment.
19:53 <Nikky> You just said.
19:54 <Recursive> If that is not enough, if the parent cannot pay for the child’s food, the parent should give up that child.
19:54 <Nikky> That all you need to survive is 180 free lunches a year, and public schooling.
19:54 <Nikky> GIve up that child?
19:54 <Recursive> Yes.
19:54 <Nikky> To who?
19:54 <Recursive> Give it up for adoption.
19:54 <Nikky> With what money?
19:54 <Nikky> Jesus
19:55 <Recursive> Or, if the parent cannot or will not give up the child, then the child has an unhappy childhood, and perhaps grows up into a dysfunctional adult.
19:55 <Recursive> Too bad.
19:55 <Recursive> So sad.
19:55 <Nikky> And too bad for the society
19:55 <Nikky> because now we have to support them
19:55 <Nikky> instead of them being, you know, productive
19:55 <Recursive> Yes.
19:55 <Nikky> Don’t you see?
19:56 <Nikky> Pennies now save thousands of dollars down the road.
19:56 <Recursive> Don’t you?
19:56 <Nikky> I mean, ou
19:56 <Recursive> We already have too many people on the face of the earth.
19:56 <Nikky> You’re not a fiscal conservative if you don’t understand that logic.
19:56 <Recursive> We are using up resources too fast.
19:56 <Nikky> You’re just an 8th grader angry at the world and hates everyone.
19:56 <Nikky> This converstation is over.
19:56 <Recursive> If we supply the deadbeats, then they proliferate.
19:57 <Nikky> I hope you get ran over by a bus, lose your health insurance, and lose your rent.
19:57 <Recursive> Have you read Freakonomics yet?
19:57 <Nikky> Then we’ll see how you think about things.
19:57 <Recursive> I’ll say,
19:57 <Recursive> “Too bad.
19:57 <Recursive> So sad.”
19:57 <Recursive> And then I’ll get of my ass and try to make something of my life.
19:59 <Recursive> In Freakonomics, the author makes a compelling case that children that do not recieve sufficient attention of the parents are more likely to grow up into societal problems.
19:59 <Recursive> This information is used to support legalized abortion.
19:59 <Recursive> Legalized abortion is great, no?
19:59 <Recursive> It reduces crime.
20:00 <Recursive> What I wonder, is, why is it then illegal for a mother to place her 9 month old child in a microwave, and kill it by cooking it?
20:00 <Recursive> It’s an abortion.
20:00 <Recursive> It’s just about a year later than normal ones.
20:01 <Recursive> http://www.handelonthelaw.com/news_details.aspx?News=5963&Date=9/1/2008
20:02 <Recursive> This mother is just like any mother that killed her unborn child through abortion.
20:02 <Recursive> OK, it’s a month old daughter.
20:02 <Recursive> Even more close to an abortion.
20:03 <Recursive> You think it is OK to kill an innocent, unborn child, but yet society should dig into its coffers to rescue the homeless on the streets from starvation?
20:03 <Recursive> They’ve already failed at life.
20:04 <Recursive> If it were the wilderness, they would already be dead.
20:04 <Recursive> Picked off by predators.
20:05 <Recursive> But anyway, think it over.
20:05 <Recursive> I don’t care how you live your life.
20:06 <Recursive> For all I care, spend every spare penny you earn on the poor and the needy.
20:06 <Recursive> Put your money where your mouth is.
20:07 <Recursive> But please don’t try to take my right to live the way I want away.
20:07 <Recursive> Good night, sir.